Ask A Woman: Sex panther, rawwwrrr!
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Beth,
I don’t want to get you in trouble here, but… Clearly, the #menswear world has a bit of an obsession with double monk shoes. I’m not a fan, but that’s OK. But then in a recent post, Joe referred to a pair at DSW as “the new budget sex panther.”
“Sex panther”? Really? Maybe to other metrosexual men. But I gotta know – what’s the female take on double monks? Are they sexy, or do they signal a guy who is more interested in how he looks than he is in how you look?
– Ryan
Hi Ryan,
Funny you should ask about this shoe. Let’s be honest here. I have an interest in style, but that mainly applies to women’s style, as I’m a woman, and it’s easier to stay up on women’s style since it is directly applicable to my everyday life. I do care about men’s style, and from time to time I write about men’s style, but it’s more of a spectator sport for me. So when I first noticed it on Dappered (yes, I read the other articles, fellas, gotta stay sharp), I was…surprised. It looked like a pilgrim shoe to me. Add a black hat with a big buckle and call it Thanksgiving! As often happens with trends, the more I saw the shoe, the less odd I found it, and now, I think, meh, a shoe with straps and buckles.
Pass the yams. Left: Mercanti Fiorentini. Right: Allen Edmonds Neumora.
So Ryan, you and I are of a mind on the double monk. And it’s fine you don’t dig this style. If you dug every trend that came along, then you would be a slave to trends instead of cultivating your own personal taste and style, which is what this Dappered community is all about. I think what Joe meant when he called the shoe a sex panther is that it was a good looking shoe for a decent price. I don’t think he meant that if you wear this shoe the women, or men, will come flocking.
I’m sorry, I know this movie is a guy’s worst nightmare, but it cracks me up every time.
Which brings us to the second part of your question. What signals to women that the dude in front of them is more interested in his own reflection than in admiring the fairer sex? Certainly not the mere presence of double monks. True story: I am in frequent contact with a gentleman who is far and away the flashiest dresser I’ve ever seen (except for RuPaul, God love him). Grey suit with thick pink pinstripes, plaid pants, leopard-print man-blouses, seizure-inducing colored ties. Every time we have dinner, he never fails to admire what I’m wearing and tell me I look lovely. I never doubt that he is sincere in his compliments, and he seems to take real pleasure in seeing how I present myself, which of course, is flattering. I suppose at first glance, people would see a vain man because he clearly has very specific ideas about what he likes to wear. But this isn’t any different than someone who has a closet full of nicely tailored chinos, dapper brogues, and well-fitting neutral-colored blazers. Both men take pride in their appearance, it’s just that one of them has more outlandish taste. And likes brighter colors.
So what you wear isn’t a signal that you’re too into yourself. How you wear it is. Are you constantly smoothing out wrinkles, adjusting your tie, checking to make sure your shirt is tucked in? Do you never miss a chance to look in a store window at your appearance? Do you freak out if someone hugs you and musses your shirt collar? Most importantly, are you preening at the expense of noticing other people? All of that fidgeting and fussing will send a signal to other people that your appearance is your number one priority. And if you do that while talking to an interesting woman, she’ll definitely get the message that you’re not really seeing her, you’re only seeing yourself. The most attractive thing you can do while pursuing a woman is to give her your full, undivided attention. It’ll work better than a pair of double monks.
-Beth
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dubmonks are just one of those polarizing menswear items.
i didn’t understand the appeal until i ran through the list of “safe” stuff. already did the wingtips/longwings/saddle shoes/ loafers thing.
i don’t think dub monks should be on your list if you’re trying to figure out your first or second or third dress shoe to buy, but i think it’s a fun item if you’re confident you have the basics down.
The second-worst style mistake obsessing about your appearance. The worst is letting others know that you do. The stylish bend their look to suit their lifestyle, not the other way around.
I like the look of double monk straps, I own a pair. However I find myself turning to the single monk more often than the double. It’s incredibly hard to dress down a double monk strap
What a weird question. Why would interest in self-presentation necessitate selfishness? If anything, it shows an interest in other peoples perceptions.
There is vanity, sure, but dressing well is also about how you want to be perceived and respecting others with good presentation.
I prefer the look of single monk straps to double as well, though I don’t own a pair of the former yet. The double monks I have are casual (black, plain-toe, white rubber sole) and I don’t have any real plans to buy dressier ones.
I love them. They fit my aesthetic perfectly: sleek, minimal, not too stuffy.
But! Lady double-monks.
http://www.jcrew.com/womens_category/shoes/loafersoxfords/PRDOVR~02959/02959.jsp
http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=2056
By which I mean to say, some women will love them, and some won’t. Just like … with everything, because women aren’t a monolithic entity with singular tastes? What a strange question.
I love double monks and dislike derby’s, medium brown shoes(just say no and go either dark or light) and brown pants; especially khaki coloured ones.
It’s all taste really 😉
The tone of the question, especially the derisive use of the word “metrosexual” (are we doing 2002 nostalgia already?), bespeaks monumental insecurity on the part of its author.
I noticed those in the J Crew catalog too…
Not to mention the heyday of dubmonks in #menswear was almost 3 years ago now
Both my girlfriend and female friend said the pilgrim thing about double monks. They will be perfect for thanksgiving!
For the most part, I don’t think a lot of women are aware of the double monk “#menswear” cliche and as such, are just calling it like they see them. I used to think the same until I warmed up to it.
Amen to this, this is further evidence that, in my opinion, the choices of questions for this column are, uh, questionable (sorry, I had to) at best.
Boom.
I always thought “sex panther” was a joke from Anchorman. As in 60% of the time, it works every time, which doesn’t make sense.
I really like the Mercanti Fiorentini Monk above