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In Review: The JC Penney Stafford Logan Wingtip

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Stafford Logan Wingtip Derby – $50.99 w/ SUMRFUN ($59.99)

UPDATE: Since this is a “featured” post for the week of 3/2, took a look at the JC Penney site and these are now down to a silly cheap $43.19 w/ the code VIPEVNT.

Praise the Shoe Gods, or, perhaps ridiculously long supply chains. These shoes, despite the current in-store experience not reflecting the previous regime, look like they fell out of the Wooster/Ron Johnson administration.

Sidenote: Has anyone been in a JC Penney lately? Have they not almost fully reverted to what they were before? Yes, that was their goal, but good grief… their stores look like an AARP sponsored St. John’s Bay fashion show got trampled by a power-walking pack of grannies stampeding to the grand opening of a new year-round Christmas Craft Store. You can hear them whip cracking their broken-spirit husbands among all that retail clutter now… “Hurry UP Harold… we’ll miss the Spoon Santa seminar!”

A review of the new Stafford Derby on Dappered.comJust like the Camlin Boot… minus the boot.

Gone is the plexiglass rigid “leather” of the Kent boot. Back is the surprisingly supple (y’know, for $50) leather of the well loved Camlin boot, as well as it’s closer dress-shoe oxford cousin, the Ashton. The toe shape is terrific, the sole isn’t clunky, and they’re comfortable out of the box.

They haven’t totally solved the sizing issues though. Consider sizing down by half a size. Heading in-store is probably your best bet, and it seems like these things have made their way into plenty of brick & mortar locations.

Stafford Wingtips - reviewed on Dappered.comBack, but this time as a Blucher.

One drawback (and maybe it’s not a drawback) is that like the Camlin boot, this new shoe is a derby/blucher. That means these shoes have more casual, open-style lacing, instead of the sleeker looking (and more dressed up) closed oxford style. Not a big deal since they’re meant to be worn casually/business casually, but still, some will prefer the look of the old Ashton oxford. Feel free to beat these things up. They’ll probably look even better.

List price is $60 but since it’s JC Penney, they’ll always be on some kind of sale. Here’s to hoping they make a boot version for the fall. Or heck, why not a similar shoe in suede?

Stafford Wingtip Sole on Dappered.comSlim enough & grippy sole. And no, those aren’t real stitches… just faux for looks.

Comments

  1. I got these or a very similar style in Black about a year-and-a-half ago, and they must be the “Kent boot” leather because they feel like hard plastic. I only wore them a few times and they got a crease right above my toes, which due the “plastic”, became almost razor sharp and cuts into the top of my toe when I walk. I had to stop wearing them. If these use a softer more pliable leather I’ll have to check them out.
    Here are the ones I have and they are like a patent leather, very hard, plastic like. You can tell by looking at them:
    http://www.jcpenney.com/sale/shoes/stafford-logan-mens-wingtip-oxfords/prod.jump?ppId=pp5003070582

  2. How’s the leather with scuffing and such? I bought a pair of Dockers wingtips because they were cheap and looked nice, but after about three months of wearing them they look beat to hell and I can’t seem to fix them.

  3. I bought these in black, and will be picking them up from the store today. Too casual to be worn with a suit?

  4. Picked these up on Sunday. On point with sizing down, I went down a half a size. They had a coupon and seemed to be on sale for 49.99 so I thought they were a steal for the 42 bucks that I paid. Have only wore them once so far but they feel good so far and look pretty good, especially for the price.

  5. IMO shoes like these are destined to look weathered. I would embrace scuffs and imperfections. They are cheap and won’t take polish like high quality leather, but you could just give them a quick buff every now and again to help a little. I think a weathered look on these will go great with denim and give a rugged but dressed well vibe.

  6. Bluchers. Lots of broguing and pinking. They lean quite casual. I suppose it would depend on the suit IMO. Although it would be much easier to pull it off with the black ones than the brown ones. What suit were you thinking?

  8. I was looking at getting a pair of AE Players but these shoes may help me save some $$. I saw them in store and agree with Joe. Dey nice! I am going to wait to get them on a good (for JCP) discount. They are always having silly good sales. I actually had a 25% off coupon when I was looking at them and passed.

  10. With all that brogueing? It can be done but realize that there will be formal/casual contrasting. This can look really good and while it’s a great street style, I think it might be a little much for formal occasions.

  11. I don’t have these but I have the whole collection of the last batch (the Camlin, the Ashton and, my surprising favorite, the longwing Ashford) and, if they are the same, they are pretty good with durability and scuffing. A quick shoe shine, every few months, and they look great BUT they do get creases. If you are somebody who can’t abide by a single crease in his shoe, this could be a problem.

  12. I had to order mine, they aren’t at any of the stores in my region. No problem because they arrived to the store within a few days. They are big! I had to return mine and have them order a size down. But since I did that in the store they gave me the price of $49 instead of $59 (which I paid $52 originally with a coupon code). I’m hoping sizing down won’t be too small. They don’t have half sizes at my size. I have to say, they are hard to beat for a shoe at the $50 price range.

  14. I was thinking of pairing them with a couple gray suits that I wear for work. I see guys wearing wingtips with suits quite a bit in my Manhattan office. I know that doesn’t mean anything, but they don’t seem to look too bad.

  15. I was headed to the comments to ask about the black version, and lo and behold, question already answered. I love this place.

  16. Go for it. I personally wouldn’t wear them with a business suit, unless it was a particularly crappy weather day and they were my best option (beater-wise). Don’t let me hold you back. If you like the look then do it.

  19. I’m wearing these for the first time today for work.
    The size doesn’t seem too bad.

  21. Ive been looking for a dark brown blulcher wingtip. Wonder if I could darken these like you did your boots Joe?

  23. It may have been mentioned elsewhere, but the Claiborne line has some really interesting new options as well–captoe bluchers, black double monks, drivers, etc. The JCP close to me is small and doesn’t carry much (they actually never even converted to the “hipper” layout when RJ took over) so it would be great to get an in-person review. Anybody on Threads game?

  26. I think they’d take some darker brown or black cream nicely. Think that marbled look might work better on a boot though. Maybe? Maybe?

  27. I got the bottom ones for $30. Obviously they are not the quality of the Camlins, but I kind of like them for some reason – not sure why. They actually look not terrible when paired with thicker wool pants for fall/winter.

  28. FYI I’m a 9C on Brannock and 8.5D in Strands but preferred the 8 to the 8.5 in these. YMMV but worth trying on in-store.

    Also, these took nicely to the black polish trick mentioned in the comments.

  29. I’m wearing the originals all this week at a conference. I love them enough to pick up another pair so I can darken them. Worth the price.

  30. If these run a half to full size large, those of us who wear size 8 are out of luck? That’s a bit of a bummer. You think it’s worth chancing, or should I just not bother?

  31. I wear a size 8 and just tried on the ones I had ordered. They seem about a half size too big. I would have thought about keeping them at the price, but the pair I was sent had a glob of glue on the side and one shoelace was missing the plastic at the end, so I couldn’t even try the one shoe on. I figure if they mess that up, the quality (even for $50) isn’t worth it.

  32. Anyone know what (if any) the designation of the sorta-longwing/sorta-shortwing dealio is with these? I’ve seen it on a few other shoes before too, but honestly not many. It’s got the longwing swipe from mid-back, but doesn’t connect up to the toe section like a longwing typically does. Instead that toe section drops off like a shortwing usually does. Right?

    So, is this thing a midwing?

  34. Checked these out in-store the other day. Black and Brown are definitely different leather. Very different look and feel.

  36. That is really odd about the price. I had to return the first pair I got because it was too big. When they ordered me a new pair, they gave me the sale price of $49 for the in-store Logan (which was the older style). Very weird that your store listed them at $75. It does seem there is a little bit of quality control issues. One other person mentioned a glob of glue on the leather. However, a few of us have had a pretty good experience with them. Sorry it didn’t work out for you. Maybe try ordering them online the next time a sale comes around?

  37. So I tried to write a review on the shoe on the JCP website. Overall it was a very flattering review, however they rejected it. I don’t leave many reviews, but I have never heard of a review being rejected.

  38. I’m based in Europe. Any recommendations for a EU site that sells affordable Wingtip Oxfords? In the 50-80$ range.

  39. because of some past negative experiences, I kind of naturally associate Stafford with ‘cheapness’. That’s probably unfair though. Those are really good looking for $60

  40. I bet in NYC, the prices are higher, they have less sales, and the stock has already been picked over.